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      <div class="comment-content">也没啥女角色了，有几个也都跟寝取搭不上，如果这两个写好了其实就很社保了，只可惜啊</div>
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      <div class="comment-content">本体就2个。CI-EN上作者8月特典是【葛原篇】，9月特典预告会是【千岁篇】。
特典就是CI-EN上每个月付费500日元支持作者得的10分钟左右小游戏。
之前的特典有过【椎那事后】插画、【千星X店长】【美纱绪X尚树】小游戏。
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      <div class="comment-content">母线比较失望，主要是我不太能接受比较肥丑的黄毛角色。文本倒是挺细腻，虽然理由有些莫名其妙还有些扯淡，不过比直接日到堕落强多了。怎么说呢，本来画风就有一些怪怪的，黄毛建议还是画的普通点吧，没必要特意画丑。</div>
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      <div class="comment-content"> ╮(￣▽￣)╭ 这个外网也有人说过作者，但是作者表示这个就是他的XP，比起帅帅的小伙，秃头肚腩的大叔更能激起他的创作欲。（顺便一提作者明确表示对黑人肤色不感兴趣）</div>
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      <div class="comment-content">这剧本我就算C都要C个几十分钟，只能说相当用心了，想机翻啃一下不过发现自己最近没这种静下来的心态了，有空认真玩一下吧。不过C了一遍被剧透（好像也不算被剧透，从一开始就知道是NTR作那接盘结局是必然的）可能体验会下降不少吧。 (→_→) </div>
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      <div class="comment-content">每月用DL的那个东西给作者打赏三百或五百日元可以获得，不过要么是插画要么是短小游戏</div>
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      <div class="comment-content">玩过前作，这个游戏的程序很奇怪，应该是故意设计的。
在所谓的一周目时，告诉你似乎是纯爱，当你开二周目时，才发现男主不过是最后一个接盘侠罢了，就冲冲罢了，不想去思考这种牛剧情 (￣﹏￣) </div>
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      <div class="comment-content">终于等到venus发文了~！首先我要送上我对venus，cv，和美心小姐的赞美，真的是非常非常优秀的作品，美心小姐在我心中已经超过了明菜小姐（我真的超爱有孩子的长发母性人妻角色！）本作堪称完美！
接下来说一点个人小小的遗憾，这个遗憾venus应该也在推特上看见我说了，（真的真的是热情被一路推高，然后眼见着变成了强X而没有沉迷于快乐，一盆冷水浇灭了不少，但是这很真实！不过我认为，也许在这之后再设置一幕或两慕H剧情会在很大程度上补充我的激情，毕竟你看武人大叔时常醉酒，打拳，完全有时间点可以设置的。但我也是一个互联网作者，深知vensu一人作画和撰写的疲劳，因此无意苛责。）
第二就是美心篇的视点设定也许当初换成武人为表视角的话可以设置的剧情线索会更多，隐奸的气氛会更浓，因为美心篇从壮真的视点看来比起前作也并没有增加情节（但是这一样会导致venus的负担加重，考虑到番外篇性质，也无意苛责。）
第三就是，if线，相信不止我一个人觉得突兀，主要因为篇幅短且是胁迫发生关系加上和主线脱离，既占用了篇章又不够好，这种3p的角色还不如让山田来做，甚至我觉得，或许if线设置为壮真受伤暂时失去了能力之后的一段日子里渐渐发现山田介入美心和桃更加色情（一方面桃继续和父亲有染，一方面美心落入山田手中这样。）然后山田同时掌握了两个人出轨的秘密，进行母娘并转为互相遮掩的关系会使整个故事更顺，剩下的篇幅也可以用来做夫目前和多几慕隐奸。
但是我深知venus您精力有限，以上皆个人臆想，不必在意！
现在，让我们展望期待未来的作品吧！已经入正！</div>
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      <div class="comment-content">真的好吗？

作为总评，“在跑道上转了两圈，以为终于起飞了，结果扑通一声掉下来了”的感觉。
是桃篇做了错误的构建（伏笔不足）的结果吗？

我认为性价比是「她的床下的窃听器」的1/8。
其中，主要原因是“剧情割裂”、“中途掉下来了”、“NTR的主要要素缺失”。

调教部分终于要开始了，什么都没做就结束了？
如果没有调教的话，和纯爱有什么分别？
如果是“从雪白的状态开始染”的话，处女一般就足够了。

刚开始山田一边说“今后会喝很多”，结果喝的只有茶。
还有，一边说着“使用曾我君”，结果什么后续都没有。

必须使用头脑的“陷落之前”虽然刻画得很好，但是写起来比较轻松的“间男无双状态的调教”完全没有就结束了的话，直截了当地说前段的辛苦徒劳无功。
据说CG数也是90张，但感觉只是徒劳地辛苦了。

例如
・把美心叫到百货商店，在紧急楼梯上涮
・每次有事都用邮件叫出。因为女儿的事而威胁，让她做各种各样的事
・一边说着要把和曾我君的情事也录下来给女儿看，一边让她拼命地做
・在女儿附近用“不早点结束的话……”的爱抚让她就范
・咦？妈妈为什么上学？——桃

如果没有的话，就不会觉得作为Venus作品算完结了。完全不够。

Plus篇也没有好好调教，完全没有NTR物的乐趣“侵蚀心灵”“染上性癖”，只是母娘凌辱，在女儿面前的终极羞耻也能无视的感觉也描写的很微妙。
前半部分的伏笔不足，大概母亲和女儿各自的调教互相侵蚀画不出来，种种妥协变成这样了吧？
那样的话，一根一根地缠在一起比较容易做，也能做出Venus先生的味道，感觉很好。

我并不是想严厉批评。
总觉得因为束缚自己而痛苦，没能展现出来。
很抱歉，我感受还不够，以至于我想在更新中追加调教部分。
那么，期待下次的作品。(#^^#)</div>
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因为很多人只想看色图，这种前期长长的文本铺垫很难耐心看完。</div>
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花长时间安排剧情，还不如多花几张啊黑颜来钱来的快，挺讽刺的。</div>
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咳，市场如此。认清现实还是小众，能玩到一作算一作吧。</div>
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其次我觉得+的剧情比美心剧情好用，毕竟又是处女又是母女的这怎么顶得住，反观美心那边，调教开发的感觉就只限前面两场，可偏偏美心篇占了三分之二的cg，还中途混进来一个莫名其妙的玩意，作者到底有多喜欢横取啊，把那玩意的戏份给爸爸活大叔不好吗
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          <span class="comment-author-name">275349845</span>
          
</a>      <time class="comment-time" datetime="2022-07-07T23:57:29+08:00" title="2022年7月07日 23:57" data-nexus-time="7">2022-07-07</time>
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      <div class="comment-content">只能说上一作的清水这一作双倍还回来  作者画工也肉眼可见的进步 </div>
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